Me: Stanford was a fraudster who committed genocide.
Him: The guy the school is named after?
Me: The guy
Him: If that were true the school wouldn't be named after him.
Me: Right. It shouldn't be.
Him: Can't be true. I can't believe you because nobody would use his name.
Me: What if I told you that people like Trump?
Him: I can't believe you. This can't be true. You aren't believable. If Stanford were so bad, he wouldn't be popular.